Servers down 

No problems with the Shadow Lord as far as i can tell still has 2 heals.

Turril's PC runs on hamster power, poor little guy must have finally collapsed!

Finally after a week i can log onto gamespy and servers.. but no gondor v mordor? is the server down.. its 12.05am on Sunday Morning can anyone confirm the server is up?

Having problems logging in.

It lists all the rooms. I get to attempting to log in then it just sits there. No error message or anything. I tried to connect to other servers but just the same thing.

I just changed broadband provider and it seem to be fine. I took off the firewall to see if that was blocking it but no affect.

I tried direct connect still nothing.

Not sure if its the game or my new broadband that is the problem.. anyone got a clue?

It's 12:10am british time.

Chaoz i think thats because someone hacked the bioware vault. I'm sure someone posted about it on here.

Another issue i have is the caster lvl appearing... has this been stopped or is it just me? Also do the shifter lvls still stack with other caster lvls?

Regards
Rabbac

I suppose i'm always a bit wary having lowish armour class (below 70) or no hips due to playing solo a lot (before i became Chaz's meatshield!)   
I did do a str based sd which is pretty effective with 30 lvls of sd his hide was about 110 (16 dex) and ac was decent enough to do some tanking, pity the ab was only about 55 or so, but catching them flat footed helped.  (muffin man)

Might do the sd/monk ranger myself so no moaning when i creep up behind you (since you only have spot) and hit you 7 times or so before i fade away   

Terror. I know its a bit off topic but whats happened to the caster lvl being displayed? I was testing a shifter 28 toon the other day and i'm sure i was just casting icestorm at lvl 5 (druid).

Can you check it when you have the chance, i liked the caster lvl display 

Correction that should read 69 hide without equipment  

Unfortunately you have to take 2 focus spell feats to get the concealment from camoflauge.

I've never really  thought about it before but isnt aid a spell you can cast on someone? So would it improve thier ab by 7 i wonder?

Nice build Az.

I'm sure theres a reason to go fighter (extra feat?) but i would probably go a duel-wielding monk 1 sd 2 for the following reasons.

You get alot more hits a round (6-7). If you max your Wis and Dex (with uncanny dodge) you will i think get more ac than the parry/2-handed bonus and you can always use a helm or shield ring to get that ac back.

Dont underestimate your hips  

I would drop exotic weapon and take stealthy (+2), max hide/ms (45) drop a couple of str and pick up epic hide/ms coupled camoflague which give +10 (55) to both but i believe also gives extra conceal (55 i think) and One with the land (another +4) that gives you 59 without equipment or your dex bonus so i think you could get to the 100 mark.. not bad for escaping or catching them flat footed. Maybe you could drop either concentration (you would be buffing pre-combat) or heal for maxing ms/hide.

If you can take the xp penalty you could even go halfling or gnome for 4 more points!

Alternatively if you think you can rely on the limited hips of the ranger (i think they get that) then you could swap sd for assassin still getting uncanny dodge at lvl 2 but allowing you to get UMD and avoid any xp penalty.

Just my tuppence worth. I actually built one of these but dex based i like your one better (with 2 sd of course)  

P.S. I would take monk at lvl 21 to get max bab from your ranger lvls and get your ac/hits early and take your last sd lvl at the end to max skills. Ranger can top up discpline anytime and i would focus my favoured enemies mainly on crit immune types for a bit of extra damage as you will be stuck with kamas.

Regards Rabbac.

Whats limited hips like? As Chaz was saying yesterday anyone with an assassin/rogue/ranger toon already has likely taken an SD lvl 

Is it like the old timer hips used to be? I was thinking of making a death saalad assassin or rogue build.. it already does decent damage but with 25 lvls of sneak it coming out of hips it might be worth building. The AC gets to 80 easily and with the +5ish ab and conceal from assassin and some immunity in shape its pretty hard to take down.

Any chance of better kit in the build test area shop Terror? Just some basic stuff like a ring of illusionary fire or ghosts sashes etc so i can see what the build is like when semi-buffed at lvl 40?

No PW's

Sounds like just another run of the mill game then, sad they could have just expanded and upgraded NWN1 instead of the shambles of NWN2.

Reminds me of Champ Man were through progressive upgrades the game got worse and worse.

Ive a feeling this will go the way of NWN 2 

I cant say ive seen them wandering in the pocket but they struggle once leaving the city were to go and half the time you tell them about the goblins cave they cant find it so some obvious signs marking them would be a good idea as well as perhaps a few tips on were to lvl 2-10ish would be a good idea, perhaps just outside the cities.

Seen someone at lvl 6 walking into os when it was the opposing faction owning it, didnt last long.

Of late it seems to be a bit hit and miss whether anyones around to give them directions.

Just an update for you terror incase you need to adjust this not sure if its supposed to work like this.

Shifter 10, Druid 5 and 25 lvls of cleric gives a caster lvl of 25 (cleric lvls only)

Shifter 10, Druid 5 and 25 lvls of monk gives a caster lvl of 25? Seems to just count your monk lvls!

Shifter/druid/wiz and shift/druids combine fine.

I was hoping that Cleric is supposed to combine as it would be nice to have 35 caster lvls like my wiz/shifter.

Rabbac.

I had read that if you max out concentration that there is not point in taking combat casting feats to avoid attacks of opportunity but i'm lvl 31 and still getting them is this then wrong and should i take them?

Pity there isnt a facility to relevel toons from scratch, it really puts me off when i have scrap a toon that i have had to grind out and just get a pittance of xp back from the xp bank for my trouble. 

Snakey!! You still playing?

After testing a few shifter builds mainly for rak shape the ice storm (cast when in shape) works as follows.

22 wiz 10 shifter 5 druid caster lvl is 32

Monk 2 druid 13 shifter 25 adds up to 38 caster lvls

It appears to take your 2 highest caster lvls and adds them but not all 3.

Thanks terror,

thats what i wanted to here

I'm was thinking of doing a cleric build (i know i should have noticed this by now) but give the high level of dispelling that occurs in nearly every area do the NPCs all cast greater dispell? or Mordor Disj?

What do the boss/high lvl types cast? I know that 25 lvls of cleric used to be the benchmark for being undispellablish but is that still the case?

For this build to stand a chance i would need to be sure that i wasnt going to get morded every 2 mins by NPCS ever 2 seconds.

Gee thanks Terror 

Happy Birthday matey hope you had a good un!

As far as i remember someone told me taking improved kd was useless because you are the largest sized creature... I may be wrong though.

Dont mean to hijack your thread but also does anyone know what the hide penalties are for dragons? I read it somewhere but cant seem to find it on the wiki or in the manuals.

Only a few over 100 olle? I wouldnt even call that a hisper 

Even my str based sd gets over 100 and thats with standard gear on 

what to do with Heavy Armor Hide 15/Move Silent 15?

i would build a str based sd with about 30 lvls of sd you can get hide over 100 with only 16 dex and shadow evade 

Happened to me to..

the problem was that i unzipped the hak folder in the CEP into my c:/nwn/hak folder and it created another hak folder inside the first if you know what i mean

e.g. c:/nwn/hak/hak so all i had to do is manually move the files from c:/nwn/hak/hak to c:/nwn/hak

Sorted, well i think that makes sense if not post and i will try and explain it better  

Thanks for the reply and the effort Terror, i realise it might seem like moaning for the sake of it and of course everything cant be balanced or brought into the game (forgot about those damn pixies) some good ideas though thanks for the hard work.