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« on: 23 May 2009, 00:23 »

Since I won't have as much time to play as I used to have, I'll spit a build idea I had after seeing park's bg/monk  Grin

Starting ability points: 14/16/10/8/14/14 or 14/18/8/8/14/14

Leveling:
Starts with 8 rogue, 10 BG, 2 rogue
Epic Levels, get 1 SD, then 15 BG, 3 Rogue, and the last lvl go for BG

-Pre-epic feats(7):
Power Attack
Cleave
Weapon Finesse
Blind Fight
Weapon Focus (Rapier)
Dodge
Mobility

-Epic Feats(7):
Improved Critical (Rapier)
Divine Might
Divine Shield
Epic Skill Focus Hide
Epic Skill Focus MS
Blinding Speed
(?)Improved Initiative

-BG bonus feats:(5)
Epic Weapon Focus(Rapier)
Epic Prowess
Armor Skin
Epic Servant
(?) Improved Sneak Attack

-Rogue Bonus feats
Crippling Strike (or Improved Evasion)
(?)Opportunist (Or Defensive Roll for epic dodge)

Main idea here was to make a rogue with crippling strike, because I always loved that roguish feat but never really managed to think of something interesting with it. If you find it worthless just trade the 2 extra rogue feats for Defensive Roll  & Improved Evasion for the always-lovely Epic Dodge

Ab is 56 (27(bab)+15(dex)+5(weapon)+4(feats)+5(ab from bulls strength)), with hips u'll get a decent hit-ratio with 7 attacks/round while hasted with 16d6 sneak attack damage.

If epic servant with 26 bg levls is good enough to tank, you can send him ahead to attarct so u can freely get sneak attacks on the mobs sawrming him.

Edit: Put up Rade's leveling correction & starting ability points

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« Reply #1 on: 23 May 2009, 00:59 »

Its a good build the problem I had with mine is that you have to spam HIPS to hit consistantly.
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« Reply #2 on: 23 May 2009, 11:50 »

Blackguard requires Cleave...
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« Reply #3 on: 23 May 2009, 23:36 »

Blackguard requires Cleave...

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« Reply #4 on: 27 May 2009, 13:52 »

Quite nice Abimael, I was trying to work out something similar.
Blackguard requires 6 Base attack bonus, so your leveling needs to change slightly: 8 rogue > 10 BG > 2 rogue

The version you've posted is great for epic dodge, but you suggested you wanted crippling strike as the focus - so I made a small tweak to improve the offense.

A rogue 11/BG 28/SD 1 would get +6 AB from bulls strength, the same amount of base sneak attack damage, and an epic BG feat (could end up with improved sneak attack II for 18d6!).
The leveling would be a little more hardcore: I would do the same pre-epic leveling scheme, epic levels would see level 1 SD at level 27 (for 30 tumble) and 1 rogue at 39 or 40.
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« Reply #5 on: 10 July 2009, 20:05 »

I like this idea, what are his stats? Does his chr bonus make divine might/shield worthwhile?
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« Reply #6 on: 11 July 2009, 01:34 »

You can go 14/16/10/8/14/14 or 14/18/8/8/14/14. 14 CHA + 12 from items will get u with +8 CHA bonus, which will be good with 7 attacks and blinding speed.

As Rade pointed out, 13 rogue is better if u want epic dodge, otherwise 11 + 28 BG if u want to make something differente Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: 16 July 2009, 19:16 »

If you wait to take Weapon Focus on Blaguard level you'll get access to Martial Wpn Prof. That way youu can take a different weapon focus other than Rapier if you have something better.
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