Barb/Cleric/Bard

[parknutz]

I would like to make this build but I'm having trouble getting it started. I was thinking 16Barb/21/cleric/3rogur or bard

Cleric Domain: Travel, War

Feats I would like to see in the build: Divine Might/Divine Shield, Terrifying Rage and Thundering Rage.
This build would have a ton of attacks from the cleric spell DP and Barb rages.

Please help its eating away at my brain.

[pinkpuff]

Can't get 18 cha for uber dp/might and still get 25str.

[Wake of death]

and you will need 21 lvls of barb to get the rages too.

[parknutz]

and you will need 21 lvls of barb to get the rages too.

You definitely don't need 21 lvls of barb to get those feats. Those really weren't the issue. Pink pretty much got what I was having trouble with. Perhaps sacrificing 9th lvl spells all together would get me the 25 STR for Thundering Rage but still stuck at a 26CHA for the DP/Diving Might damage and attacks.

[pinkpuff]

Keep in mind that yo would get tons of attacks, but not at great ab.

Let's say your max ab is 65, which is nearly possible with the build using 18 base charisma.

You get 4 base attacks
1 from haste
2 from divine power
4 from rages

This totals 11. Sounds great...but it's deceiving.

The attack schedule only starts over one time, so your attacks would look like this

65/60/55/50/65/60/55/50/45/40/35

So basically all of the barb extra attacks would be at crap ab and likely only useful against things with horrid ac or hoping for 20's.

I toyed with a similar build for awhile but just couldn't see dropping all that ac for a few more low ab attacks. Eventually i just settled on building the 35cleric/4fighter/1bard in it's place.

[MasterThief]

I'm not sure if your counting Divine Power as +5 but with the spell changes its only +3 with 21 lvls of cleric 35 are required if you want +5 Divine Favour still works the same i think..

Of course if you have taken that into account just ignore me.. at work and dont have the time to work it out 

[charliebuckett]

But Pink you would be getting 6 attacks at 55 ab or better....

[pinkpuff]

Sure, but what I was saying is that you can get those same attacks (minus the horrid ab ones) and have lvl 35 cleric buffs.

I'm currently playing  cleric/aa with 15 cleric lvls, I get dispelled everywhere I go. My 35cleric/4ftr/1bard on the other hand.....has been dispelled twice, total.

[MasterThief]

I have a cleric monk sd with 26 lvls of cleric and he practically never gets dispelled either  I think with 26 lvls he beats the greater dispell toolset if i remember right, obviously mords will still throw a spanner in the works though!

[pinkpuff]

Yeah, the only dispells that will really hurt after that are from the mostly pure mages, such as Gondor sorcs, Mordor wizards, barad wizards, rivendell mages.

However it just happens to be that those are the places you want to go to get the good drops