Monk(18), Druid(20), Shadowdancer(2), Human

[Wake of death]

STR: 8
DEX: 14
CON: 10
WIS: 18 (32)
INT: 14
CHA: 8

Human: (Quick to Master)
01: Monk(1): Dodge, Toughness, {Cleave, Evasion, Improved Unarmed Strike, Stunning Fist}
02: Monk(2): {Deflect Arrows}
03: Monk(3): Blind Fight
04: Monk(4): WIS+1, (WIS=19)
05: Druid(1)
06: Druid(2): Extend Spell
07: Druid(3)
08: Druid(4): WIS+1, (WIS=20)
09: Druid(5): Lightning Reflexes
10: Druid(6)
11: Druid(7)
12: Druid(: WIS+1, Called Shot, (WIS=21) * maybe max spell ** Weapon Finesse
13: Monk(5)
14: Monk(6): {Knockdown, Improved Knockdown}
15: Monk(7): Alertness *couldnt think of anything else ** improved critical unarmed
16: Monk(: WIS+1, (WIS=22)
17: Monk(9): {Improved Evasion}
18: Monk(10): Mobility
19: Monk(11)
20: Monk(12): WIS+1, (WIS=23)
21: Shadowdancer(1): Great Wisdom I, {Hide in Plain Sight}, (WIS=24)
22: Shadowdancer(2): {Darkvision, Uncanny Dodge I}
23: Monk(13)
24: Druid(9): WIS+1, Great Wisdom II, (WIS=26)
25: Druid(10)
26: Druid(11)
27: Druid(12): Great Wisdom III, (WIS=27)
28: Druid(13): WIS+1, (WIS=28)
29: Druid(14)
30: Druid(15): Great Wisdom IV, (WIS=29)
31: Druid(16)
32: Druid(17): WIS+1, (WIS=30)
33: Druid(18): Dragon Shape
34: Monk(14)
35: Monk(15)
36: Monk(16): WIS+1, Epic Prowess, (WIS=31)
37: Monk(17)
38: Druid(19)
39: Druid(20): Armor Skin
40: Monk(18): WIS+1, (WIS=32)

Hitpoints: 360
Skillpoints: 305
Saving Throws (Fortitude/Will/Reflex): 24/35/24
Saving Throw bonuses: Spells: +8, Mind Effects: +2, Fear: +2
BAB: 25
AB (max, naked): 25 (melee), 28 (ranged)
AC (naked/mundane armor/shield only): 36/36
Spell Casting: Druid(9)
Alignment Changes: 0

Concentration 43(43), Discipline 43(42), Hide 43(45), Listen 43(56), Move Silently 43(45), Search 2(4), Spellcraft 42(44), Tumble 43(45), remaining skillpoints 1

This is a build I have been thinking of for a few weeks. I know there are things wrong so, let me know whats wrong, aside from the fact that I thought of it. HEHE

There are a few feats that could be changed but at the time I couldn't think of anything else.

I put points into spellcraft, i could move them to heal, I think it would be better.

Tell me what ya think.

Thanks
Wake

[psalmanzar]

Seems like a very solid melee druid.

Where you take alertness, you might try weapon finesse.  I believe the 1.69 patch made it work properly on the air elemental form, which you will probably be using extensively prior to getting dragon shape and maybe even afterward where dragon's won't fit.  I'm not sure whether it works or not though, because my only druid is a caster and too feat starved to fit it in.

[Noruas]

I will get improved critical fist at level 15, you will have perma TS in dragon shape, so alertness is useless

[Wake of death]

Hay,

      Thanks for the ideas. I have edited the build to show the 2 ideas.

      They are marked with "**". Let me know if that looks better.



Thanks
Wake

[radagast]

Rather than take up space with a new topic I was wondering if anyone knew what the penalties for a dragon/sd are with MS and HIDE? I know i read it somewhere but I cant find it?

[locmer]

From what I can tell when shifting my dragons the penalty should be 25.

With dex 48 (buffed) this means about -6

so with skill ranks and skill feats the max for it should be 100.

43(ranks) + 3(skill focus) + 10(epic skill) + 50(gear+spells) - 6 = 100

Not entirely sure, but I think I'm close enough.

Cheers

[Endlessorrow]

Prettty decent dragon hipser.       a few points   just put 40 points in tumble and put 38 or 43 in spell craft   spell craft is better than heal  for the build i think.

  loose max spell and extend spell and  2 great wisdoms  and take   3 spell focuses in divination and one spell focus in conjuration   The +3 ab and ac from premonition is worth the 3 feats i think   even if you dont make a trustrike potion crafter.  but if the dragon carries true strike potions well lets just say he  is a very serious threat to most anything.    the conj focus feat will up the dc on your lvl 1 grase spells and fighting in grease is always nice for a dragon it also will ad to the durationb of your aura of vitality  more than extend spell would ... per the spell change sign..

[radagast]

Thanks all, 25 isnt too bad 

[Khaine]

How high is the AB and AC for this build? Buffed and unbuffed.

EDIT: Also, does the monk attack bonus/bonus attacks and such transfer to shapes that are unarmed (like dragons)?